Alek's Thoughts

dissonance. fun. conviction.

In this post (the first post of skyspace4!) I reflect on at least 3 topics: (1) There are 3 types of shame: shame that causes you to take actions better aligned with your goals, shame that is maladaptive embarrassment of doing something right, and shame that causes you to pull away from others. (2) What fun pursuits do I value the most? (3) Is it actually good to try to achieve your goals?


Introduction#

As many of you know, I've recently discontinued skyspace3.

Fortunately, I'm starting skyspace4.

The main difference is that I have an actual good site for viewing the 0stack: it has descriptions for the posts and AI generated thumbnails! I'll also try to be better about not wasting reader time with incoherent notes that I accidentally put in 0stack.

A couple of notes about skyspace4:


ok, logistics out of the way, I'll now brain dump some things that have been happening lately, and things that I've been thinking about. At the end I'll hopefully distill to an insight.


Recent Events#

The last couple months, especially June, have involved lots of change and decisions.

For instance,

I've learned some stuff about myself --- or more accurately was reminded of several things that I already kind of knew about myself:

Shame#

There are some situations, which occur every once and a while, where I feel "shame" very strongly. I think this is partially a large strength of mine, and partially a large vice.

(Note: I'm not sure that shame is really the right word to describe this, and I am actually gesturing at a couple of distinct things here, but I think it does a reasonable job).

Here's what helpful shame looks like for me:

Ok, but here's what bad shame looks like:

For the 4-6 major situations where I had cognitive dissonance that was later resolved, the time that it took to resolve the dissonance was actually extremely long often. That is very unfortunate.

I think what often happens is I weigh all the "sunk costs" or whatever that are holding me back from just doing what I know is right, and it's just too heavy. And this kind of disables me for a bit. I only change my actions once there is literally no other way. And it seems like I often have to go to ridiculous measures to not feel like I'm taking scary actions. For instance, if I really need to send someone an email or something, but I'm anxious about sending the email, then I'll schedule send it and forget about it, or else I couldn't send it.

Well. What's my advice to future Alek when he has this problem next?

  1. Rely on friends ASAP.
    1. For instance, if you feel strongly that you should do thing X but are scared or whatever, tell your friend "I'm going to do thing X tomorrow" and have them bug you about it.
  2. If you are being anti-social bc of feeling bad about stuff, then just be social.
  3. Life is probably short, so prioritize resolving the dissonance ASAP. (Subject to the constraint of, if doing this too rapidly would cause larger problems, then resolve in whatever temporal schedule is best).
  4. Use weird hacks to force yourself to resolve the dissonance soon. E.g., send an email rather than talking in person if this is easier.
  5. Be kind to yourself.

It's also worth noting that shame is just an emotion. It can be wrong. Often it is wrong. For instance, I might feel ashamed to ask a friend for a favor. As discussed elsewhere, this is dumb. But again shame is not really the right word for this feeling, and I think that this might be a genuinely different feeling from the other notion of shame here, such that I can actually distinguish between them.

Fun#

I think it's pretty healthy to do some things besides work, and I think this is important for achieving my values (not just instrumentally).

Here are the main ways that I'm trying to do this right now, and some thoughts on their merits.

  • Shatar: Hi Alek, I was thinking about getting married to Blobby. Do you think this is a good idea?
  • Alek: Nope.
  • JJ: Hi Alek, I was thinking about quitting my job. Here's some context: I don't really buy the vision of the group I'm working with, and I think (but am not sure) that I could do good work with another group. What do you think?
  • Alek: Hi JJ, thanks for reaching out. I think that's potentially a really great idea. Some advice I'd give is to talk to the other group you're thinking about working with, get an actual offer on paper, and then actually read that offer, and then probably go for it if the offer seems reasonable. Let me know if you have any other questions, wishing you the best with this decision!
  • Blobby: Can I be the art on your new blog?
  • Alek: Hi Blobby, Thanks for your thoughtful question. I'll have a chat with my content creator about that.
  • Blobby: yum!

Conviction#

About a year ago, I decided that the goals I was pursuing were not ultimately the right goals. I adopted the following goals for "how I want to spend my life": (1) Making the universe a better place (2) Solving interesting and useful problems (3) Socially connecting with other people.

Q: How have I done at achieving these goals?

I think I've done moderately well.

  1. I haven't done too much to make the universe better yet, but I've plausibly gained useful skills towards doing this, and have maneuvered into a state where it's relatively easy to make the universe a better place.
    1. Probably the biggest progress here is work I've done on clarifying my goals here, thinking about what actions are likely helpful for achieving this goal, and strengthening my resolve to do this.
  2. I think my main problem solving was on the philosophy side.
    1. Overall I think I get a fairly low rating here.
  3. I had some good social connections. Def are ways I could improve here still ofc.

TG recently asked me "do you still endorse these goals?"

I still endorse (1) and (3). In particular goodness(universe) still seems like a basically fine definition of how good the universe is; not that I'd be comfortable optimizing hard against it ofc.

I'd like to revise (2) as follows:

I think the main distinction from the previous (2) is that I've removed the need for work to be "intellectually interesting". If your working is making the universe a better place, and you are doing good work, then it's totally fine by my value system if the work is not intellectually interesting. Although in this case, I do hope you do some other intellectually interesting stuff! One of the smartest ppl I've met works for the government now, instead of doing crazy math/alignment stuff. It's not intellectually interesting afaik. But I think that this is great, and want this kind of situation to be covered by my value system. More personally, I think that empirical ML research might sometimes be an engineering grind rather than "super intellectually interesting", this seems like a pretty good thing to do, and I'd like my value system to endorse this.

Note: I suspect that many of my friends are strongly opposed to this change. Well, fight me.


Is it actually good to try to achieve your goals?

Recently a certain quantum physicist told me something to the following effect:

Procrastinating on making big life decisions is actually helpful in many situations. Some people make big life decisions too rapidly / impulsively, and making decisions is usually a higher variance deal, with possibly large downsides. The low variance choice of "going with the life flow" of doing what is conventional has "wisdom of the crowd" baked into it. Or at least these options are pretty well tested, unlike departures from this path that you might take. For an avg intelligence person, you probably shouldn't be able to do very well in expectation by betting against conventional wisdom.

I almost hesitate to include the above excerpt, because I think that it's the wrong advice for most readers of this blog.

But I think there is some truth to the sentiment. And it does resonate a bit with me.

More specifically, sometimes in the course of trying to actually pursue my goals in an approximately mathematically sane way I cry:

Isn't this supposed to be easy?
I'm trying to do the freaking right thing, why do I have to deal with all this crap?

But, writing this sentiment down, it instantly becomes clear how silly it is, in many dimensions.

Why would it be easy? In fact, it's natural that there are challenges.

Also looking at it from another angle, it's ridiculous how much altruistic people have done to try to make things maximally easy.

Yes there will be challenges.

Some will be easy to handle, and I should def do so.

Sometimes, all I can do is handle challenges one step as a time, as they come up.


Ultimately, I'm extremely glad for the times when I've taken actions with conviction.

I stand by my resolution to work hard, seek knowledge, connect with others and to make the world a better place until the end.